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Building a Brand Worn by Rihanna, Hailey Bieber AND Coco Gauff

Oct 5
3 min read

Episode 126: Jennifer Fisher


In this episode of the Matthews Mentality Podcast, Kyle Matthews sits down with Jennifer Fisher, founder and Chief Brand Officer of Jennifer Fisher Jewelry, founder of Maedyn, and author of Trust Your Gut.


The New York Times called her the Queen of Hoops. Jennifer spent ten years as a wardrobe stylist, starting out on commercials, before making a single piece for herself — a gold tag with her son's name on it, created after years of fertility setbacks because nothing on the market felt like her. She wore it on set, made one for Uma Thurman, and Uma chose to wear it on the cover of Glamour without telling her first.


She has lived with a desmoid tumor, a soft tissue sarcoma, since she was 30, at a point when nobody was certain how to treat it. Twelve rounds of chemotherapy shrank it. Turning 50 and living with Hashimoto's, she later read her way into an anti-inflammatory approach to food that became her signature salts, her cookbook, and Maedyn, the lifestyle and media platform she now runs alongside the jewelry business.


The conversation also explores bootstrapping for almost 20 years before taking on Centric Brands, a roughly $3 billion licensing company, as a manufacturing partner; the surge in demand COVID produced; how she gets her jewelry onto the people who wear it; and what gold prices and tariffs are doing to the business right now.


Topics covered in this episode:


The New York Times naming her the Queen of Hoops

Ten years styling commercials before she made any jewelry

Making the first gold tag for her son after years of fertility setbacks

Uma Thurman wearing her piece on the cover of Glamour

Living with a desmoid tumor since the age of 30

Twelve rounds of chemotherapy while building the business

Why she wants people in the office rather than remote

Bootstrapping for almost 20 years before any outside partner

Why COVID created a surge in demand for the brand

Partnering with Centric Brands to scale manufacturing and wholesale

How she approaches getting jewelry onto celebrities

Hashimoto's, inflammation, and rethinking how she eats

Where the name Maedyn came from, and what it is now

What rising gold prices and tariffs mean for a jewelry business

Her husband coming in to run the company

How her family, and the tumor, still shape what drives her


Jennifer also explains why the biggest decisions in her career came from listening to herself rather than the people telling her to go another way, and why she kept going through the stretches when nothing went to plan.


Whether you're an entrepreneur, founder, creative, or someone interested in fashion, branding, health, or building a consumer business, this conversation offers a close look at the decisions behind Jennifer Fisher Jewelry and the woman who built it.


Show Notes:

00:00 Rihanna Walks In

01:01 Meet Jennifer Fisher

02:35 A Day in the Life

03:57 Remote Work vs the Office

11:24 Work Ethic From Family

14:10 Money Loss and Anxiety as Fuel

18:13 Living With a Desmoid Tumor

21:46 The Jewelry Origin Story

24:24 Queen of Hoops

25:59 The Anti-Inflammatory Shift

28:10 Styling Career and Hustle

30:53 Founder Mom Tradeoffs

35:32 Raising Hardworking Kids

38:35 Always-On Sacrifices

40:36 Bootstrapping, Then Partners

42:19 The COVID Demand Surge

44:58 Scaling With Systems

48:15 The Celebrity Seeding Strategy

51:04 Trusting Her Gut

53:45 New Lines and Menswear

54:13 The Maedyn Origin Story

58:03 Adversity and Mindset

01:01:00 Advice for Starting Out

01:02:09 Being a Female Founder

01:04:45 Mentorship and Giving Back

01:08:50 Defining Success

01:10:07 The Nicest Thing Anyone Did

01:11:00 Praise From Anna Wintour

01:12:40 Fashion Favorites

01:13:56 Her Husband as CEO

01:16:11 The Rihanna Amex Story

01:18:13 Gold Prices and Tariffs

01:21:09 Trends and Lab Diamonds

01:23:32 The Long-Term Vision

01:27:16 Family, Motivation, Perspective

01:30:50 Closing Thoughts



 
 
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